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Guild Wars Guru · May 16, 2005, 02:49 AM // 02:49

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bobtheveg · May 16, 2005, 02:49 AM // 02:49

NPC : Steig[Skills] in Camp Rankor

Erace · Jul 09, 2005, 04:29 PM // 16:29

can u get this from any boss's? just that i dont have any skill points left but i got a Capture.

airetosE · Aug 01, 2005, 02:54 PM // 14:54

would anyone happen to know if Conjure Lightning has the 25% armour penetration that many other Lightning spells feature?

Also, apart from element-specific resistance is there any other notable practical difference between using the different Conjure spells? (fire, frost & lightning)

Mercury Angel · Aug 01, 2005, 06:35 PM // 18:35

No, armor penetration is only there the spells, barring Lightning Surge and Whirlwind. The conjures do nothing more than add extra damage to elemental weapons.

knives · Aug 01, 2005, 07:05 PM // 19:05

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Originally Posted by airetosE

would anyone happen to know if Conjure Lightning has the 25% armour penetration that many other Lightning spells feature?

Also, apart from element-specific resistance is there any other notable practical difference between using the different Conjure spells? (fire, frost & lightning)

NO armor penetration unless stated. The difference in the conjures is the type of string you have, and which you like best. Since in pvp not many people bring cold resistant armor, conjure frost + icy bowstring is best. Otherwise in pvp, the type of monsters will effect your decision. (Though, conjure flame + kindle arrows works too, taht means you can add a vampiric string + conjure + kindle for tons of damage)

Aug 28, 2005, 02:03 AM // 02:03

Cool I have to Say this is my favorite conjure. Hey guys I wonder if specializing in 2 elements and using 2 conjures would do more damage then just using one and specializing in that element?
I.E I have a Warrior which I change the 2nd pro all the time! I have 11+4 swordmanship and 10 strength with the ramaining attribute points (I have done both the quest which get u more) If I divided them into 2 elements and using 2 conjures would it be better then putting them in 1 and using 1 conjure?

irflynn · Aug 28, 2005, 03:03 AM // 03:03

If you read conjure it says...if your wielding a lighting wepon, so if your wepon had two elements it would work, but im pretty sure they cant.

Labrie · Sep 01, 2005, 10:44 PM // 22:44

Any of the Conjure Element spells remove all your current enchantments, so you couldn't have more than one on at a time anyway.

Sep 06, 2005, 12:39 AM // 00:39

O I C.... Anyways Guys I think there is a way to add to the Conjure+Kindle+Vampiric string combo but u would have to depend on your allys. What they would do is use skills like Strenth of Honour and Order of Pain/Vampire and Over skill that allys can use on other allys to increase damage plus for a one time effect u can use Duel Shot to Double the damge of the conjure,kindle and all the other things u got to other then the regular damage. Guys U know of any other increase ally damage other then the ones I said?

Mercury Angel · Sep 06, 2005, 01:51 AM // 01:51

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Originally Posted by username

O I C.... Anyways Guys I think there is a way to add to the Conjure+Kindle+Vampiric string combo but u would have to depend on your allys. What they would do is use skills like Strenth of Honour and Order of Pain/Vampire and Over skill that allys can use on other allys to increase damage plus for a one time effect u can use Duel Shot to Double the damge of the conjure,kindle and all the other things u got to other then the regular damage. Guys U know of any other increase ally damage other then the ones I said?

Strength of Honour only works in melee, and the Orders only work on Physical attacks. Kindle turns your weapon into fire.

You either have to go all-out physical buffs, or not. Judge's Insight would disable the Conjure and Orders as well.

Edit: As in most of the buffs that will affect physical damage ONLY affect physical damage.

Bry-Guy · Sep 06, 2005, 02:40 AM // 02:40

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Originally Posted by Mercury Angel

Strength of Honour only works in melee, and the Orders only work on Physical attacks. Kindle turns your weapon into fire.

Order of Pain - Enchantment Spell
Sacrifice 17% of maximum health. For 5 seconds, whenever a party member hits a foe, that party member does an additional 3-13 damage.

where does it say phyisical

kawaii_bat · Sep 12, 2005, 06:04 PM // 18:04

Order of Pain - Enchantment Spell
Sacrifice 17% of maximum health. For 5 seconds, whenever a party member hits a foe, that party member does an additional 3-13 damage.

If it says *hit* then it's whenever they do an attack. It can't be a spell, but it can come from a Spellcaster, warrior or monk weapons. It can't be spells.

Mercury Angel · Sep 12, 2005, 06:31 PM // 18:31

How about it says it here:

I wouldn't intentionally mislead someone about a skill description, and in this instance, the skill has changed.

At one point in time during the BWE's, I'm fairly sure I remember being able to trigger Order of Pain/Vampire on staff/wand hits. However, that definitely isn't true anymore now.

unienaule · Sep 12, 2005, 07:30 PM // 19:30

I dunno, physical damage sounds more like "not magical" than just melee. So maybe rods/staves wouldnt work since they are elemental, but bows arent inherently elemental.

Mercury Angel · Sep 12, 2005, 07:46 PM // 19:46

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Originally Posted by unienaule

I dunno, physical damage sounds more like "not magical" than just melee. So maybe rods/staves wouldnt work since they are elemental, but bows arent inherently elemental.

The problem in what he wants is Kindle Arrows.
With Kindle Arrows, you don't need a fiery bowstring to use Conjure Flame, because Kindle Arrows turns your damage to fire. That Flame Slinger build doesn't need Greater Conflagration either.

If you're using Kindle Arrows, then you're using fire damage, and not physical. Ergo, it doesn't work with Order of Pain.

The same holds true for Judge's Insight enchantment.

unienaule · Sep 15, 2005, 11:38 AM // 11:38

Well, you're right about Judge's Insight, but I didn't think so about Kindle. You really should read up on your skills. Kindle arrows: For 24 seconds, your arrows deal an additional 3-20 Fire damage. Note the "additional." I've fought enough rangers to remember it shows normal damage and Kindle damage differently. Therefore if you're not using a fiery bowstring, you're doing physical damage. :-) I just assumed everyone knew what Kindle Arrows did.

Snowman · Sep 15, 2005, 01:01 PM // 13:01

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Originally Posted by Erace

can u get this from any boss's? just that i dont have any skill points left but i got a Capture.

Yes, one of those nasty ghostly undead looking mosters.. you can find one at Sanctum Cay.

smedge · Sep 15, 2005, 09:13 PM // 21:13

Kindle arrows is not supposed to turn your damage into fire damage (read the description carefully). It's supposed to ADD fire damage to your arrows normal damage. This is causing problems with my r/e build and the triggering of glimmering mark and I reported it as a bug. If this bug is also afftecing your builds I would submit it using /bug. The more anet hears about it the more likely it is to get fixed.

smedge · Sep 15, 2005, 09:13 PM // 21:13

Kindle arrows is not supposed to turn your damage into fire damage (read the description carefully). It's supposed to ADD fire damage to your arrows normal damage. This is causing problems with my r/e build and the triggering of glimmering mark and I reported it as a bug. If this bug is also afftecing your builds I would submit it using /bug. The more anet hears about it the more likely it is to get fixed.